Why I Intensely Debated But Decided to Disqus
Comments are a strange part of blogging. I love ‘em, and I hate ‘em. The majority of comments I get seem to fall into the camp of: “Gee, Micah, I really liked what you wrote.”
But, the comments I love are the ones that extend the discussion. Sometimes those comments spill over onto Twitter, or direct emails, or lunch discussions the next day. And those are the comments that I would love to capture. Those comments I would love to extend beyond my blog. Those comments I would love to make interactive.
When I started to get back involved with the Colorado tech scene, I got to know one of the founders of Intense Debate, Josh Morgan. Fantasic guy. Clearly in over his head, but a hard worker. His partner, Jon Fox, is a brilliant developer, but needed direction. Still I really liked what they were doing.
So, I added Intense Debate.
After a couple of weeks, Intense Debate began to really bog down performance wise. Plus, it didnt have trackback support. Knowing the guys, I finally made the decision to pull it off my blog, and go back to the default comments. I explained why (performance and lack of trachback support). I figured the default comment system would be good enough.
Over the months, I watched Disqus continue to grow and Intense Debate languish. “They will do what they are going to do,” I thought to myself. “I hope that ends up positive.”
And, Disqus continued to innovate and extend their reach. And, finally, Disqus got funded.
And while there has been minimal innovation with Intense Debate, Disqus has continued to add features and even developed an API (which as a non-technical person always means to me that one can do more cool stuff with the product).
And, even more importantly, more and more of the blogs that I interact with were using Disqus.
Still, I stayed loyal, and added no comment system to my blog.
Fast forward several months.
My blog has grown. Many times, I get a dozen or so comments on posts. Its no 100+ that some people get, but its more than 1 or 2. So, I started reviewing comment systems again.
For those that dont know, I run business development at Lijit Networks, and one of my roles is finding additional content sources for our technology to index. At Lijit, we are content agnostic. We will index any RSS/OPML feed or URL.
I often say, “Google wants to index everything. At Lijit, we only index the information you care about.” So, if you want to index Disqus or Intense Debate comments, we want to make it easy.
So, I emailed Daniel Ha over at Disqus and Tom Keller at Intense Debate.
Five minutes later, I got an email back offering development and business development support. Access to a private API, basically whatever we needed. (It didnt hurt that Daniel and his business partner were both UCDavis–my alma mater–*ahem* almost grads).
I was completely amazed at the speed and willingness of Daniel to make sure that the two companies worked well together and produced a superior integration.
And even then, I didnt add Disqus. I stayed true to my word, not adding any comment system.
This post: http://www.jangro.com/a/2008/04/08/hacking-disqus/ became the straw that broke the camel’s back for me personally.
Why? Because the community had begun to choose which comment system they wanted to use by hacking it, and if you read the comments, Daniel jumped right in and has taken some of the hacks, and integrated them into the system. Disqus had embraced the community right back.
Then, with the addition of video comments (something I want to play with, and would rather do than write a comment), Disqus became too good to not use.
So what does that mean? Its simple enough. In this world we all work in, if you dont embrace (and be embraced by the community) you cannot succeed. If you dont continually innovate, you cannot succeed.
Moral to the story: If you dont embrace the community, and you dont innovate, you die.
And that is why I chose to add Disqus comments to this blog. Will they stay? I dont know. It will depend on if Daniel and team continue down their current path. Could Intense Debate produce something that is interesting enough for me to walk away from Disqus? Sure, and frankly, I hope they do. But, for now, Disqus it is.

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PS: You should pitch me on Lijit some time, I've seen it around the place, both for a post + I might even run it on The Inquisitr.
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I really like to think that understanding the importance of community engagement is the difference maker for many companies. And, of course, that Lijit has a pretty cool product that is focused on supporting and partnering with publishers.
(ok, enough pitching...)
Look forward to talking to you soon.
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Regardless of what service you decide on using, it's been a pleasure learning from your feedback. Based on some of the notes you made about improving our SEO, I've been dong a lot of reading and have consequently learned a bunch.
BTW, regarding trackbacks, we're in the designing stages of something very cool. I am very excited about this one and I hope you'll agree.
Oh, and go Ags. ;)
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I am a big fan of having two players in a space that continually push each other to be better. I hope that Intense Debate and Disqus continue to have this type of relationship.
Good luck!
Oh, and go Ags. (I hope your mom is going to make you go back and finish.)
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The web has become community driven. We all need to understand and embrace that.
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Both things are slipping. The API version is lagging in features and Daniel has been more absent. I totally appreciate how busy Daniel is, but it's important and I hope he can find a way to balance that.
I've seen hints on Twitter that the API version is getting updated. I'm happy to see that as I was getting worried.
As for the community presence, at this point it's got to be you, Daniel. Find a way to work it out.
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A balance if priorities will always be difficult, but I'm trying. We've been expanding both service and team, but our releases are still on track.
I like to be tranparent in what we're doing: the API plugin is undergoing a lot of design right now. We hope to get that released in June. This is not a "company-endorsed" ETA, but rather just my personal assessment.
I really appreciate the support.
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It'll take some work to get out there and form a relationship with them but when you do it will be the most important thing you ever did.
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It has been eye opening for me at Lijit. I have spoken to all kinds of users, both in terms of size, stature and subject expertise. All of them, as I am sure many people are with any third party, leery of giving up a critical component of their publication to a third party.
So to help alliviate that, we are fanactial about support and listening.
Like any good relationship its how the relationship is protected when things go wrong versus when things are easy and simple. Hopefully, I am learning more about that every day, and acting on it.
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Ahem. I mean .. cheers. Before this post, I'd only come into contact with Intense Debate. It'd be good if one of their people come and comment here, give some alternative feedback.
Was just thinking, the more "hackable" a 3rd Party product is, the less likely it is that people will want to change. Intense Debate is very easy to pull in and out of a blog at the moment. But if you invest time in an API, like Disqus .. it's just one more little step that ties you to the product.
I'm off to check out Disqus more.
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Either producers integrate both services DISQUS and Intense Debate, (remove that FriendFeed comment system on blogs... useless IMO) and have the best of both worlds.
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comment as they want, ID, Disqus or FF.
But, its impossible to have the cross pollination of content, given
that ID and Disqus are both companies looking to eventually generate
revenue...
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Sooner or later, if they both decide to start charging for their services (or a premium), we'll end up spending more than we ought to be. Then we'll have to drop support of one service, and goodbye all comments.
Hmm, they really must join the Open Comments Workgroup and develop well "open comments". http://open-comments.org
Sigh...
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of creating a "bill of rights" for commenters. I think its a great
step in the right direction...
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Can't wait what else they can do together. (And can't wait SezWho and Outbrain to join these two... )
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rating widget?
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This can further help in creating discussions (and keep the web community healthy).